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now!" >> i think it is a vital tool. i have been intimately involved with the condition u.s government has been involved in and i consider without a doubt it has been very successful as far as producing intelligence. >> as counter-terrorism czar john brennan heads to capitol today for his confirmation hearing to head the cia, we will look at his role in the government's secretive post-9/11 rendition program. we will speak with amrit sing, author of the new report, "globalizing torture: cia secret detention and extraordinary rendition." >> the american public needs to know what its government did. grabbing people off the street, flying them to secret cia prisons to be locked up, shut out, held in detention and subjected to interrogation, and many instances that amounted to torture. >> then radio ambulante and the power of radio. >> we begin at the world's busiest border crossing in tijuana. it is rush hour and a mass exodus into the u.s., each with a particular mission and a baggage to prove it. summer caring suitcases, others carrying school books. >> an spanish-language radio program
, the obama administration claims it has legal authority to assassinate u.s. citizens overseas even if there is no intelligence indicating they are engaged in an active plot to attack the u.s. we will speak with jameel jaffer from the aclu. the obama administration is claiming the legal authority to indefinitely detain americans without charge or trial. >> the way in which our fundamental rights, our bill of rights, our constitution freedoms have been abridged by the last 10 years and more as president obama is unhappily following in that tradition. >> we will speak with whistleblower daniel ellsberg who is in new york this week to attend an appeal in his lawsuit against the ndaa. we will speak with computer security researcher jacob appelbaum who lost a federal appeals court ruling that the government could subpoena his twitter and e-mail information without a warrant as part of its probe into wikileaks. the boy scouts of america prepared to vote on whether to lift its ban on gay members. >> the question always comes down to, can case raise quick -- raise kids? most people really d
in the face of increased hostility from the u.s. all of that and more coming up. this is "democracy now!," democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman. north korea is drawing global condemnation for a new underground nuclear test. the north korean government confirmed the test after seismic activity of 4.9 magnitude was picked up in the korean peninsula. north korea had vowed to conduct rocket launches and a u.s.-and declared test after the u.n. security council resolution tightened sanctions in response to rocket launch two months ago. in a statement, u.n. secretary general ban ki-moon condemned the test, calling it "deplorable" and "a clear and grave violation." the security council is holding an emergency session on north korea later today. two men have been charged in the shooting death of a 15-year-old girl struck by random gunfire just days after performing at president obama's inauguration. hadiya pendleton had recently returned from washington, where she performed with her school marching band during the inaugural festivities. she was laid to rest saturday at a f
to testify about the pentagon's response to the attack on ought consulate. he said the u.s. didn't have enough time to respond. he says it's not like you can pick up the phone and call 911. mike emanuel is on the hill. set the stage for us on this hearing. >> reporter: it's designed to address the concerns of south carolina senator lindsey graham who threatened to hold up the confirmation for chuck hagel, his successor. so what did the president know about the benghazi attack september 11, when did he know about it and what did he do about it? sources i talked to say panetta and others are carrying out the orders of the commander-in-chief. so what were they and how were they handled. expect fireworks. rick: later on this afternoon the president's nominee the head of the cia takes center stage. >> reporter: expect john brenner to get plenty of questions about the use of enhanced interrogation techniques during this time at cia. he left there in 2005. at the white house they are emphasizing brennan's experience. >> mr. brennan brings, i think, not on a vast amount of experience, but a sig
that this u.s. launches these drone attacks against al qaeda targets from that particular base. i want to bring in two folks here at the pentagon chris lawrence also michael holmes from cnn international. chris, it's not a total surprise that this was there in saudi arabia, but certainly it was not something that they officially wanted to reveal. why are they doing it now? >> that's the big question, suzanne, why did this come out? we reported two years ago from our sources u.s. officials were telling us the cia was building an airstrip in the a arabian peninsula. it was hinted it would possibly be in saudi arabia. but we never had any sort of agreement to withhold that. we simply reported it was being built in the arabian peninsula. others entered an agreement with the white house to hold back the exact location. why that is coming out now? that's what we are trying to figure out. it's certainly extremely provocative. you couldn't pick probably a more provocative place in the islamic world to have u.s. strikes originating from saudi arabia. it is for that reason u.s. troops on saudi s
. testified about the attack thon u.s. consulate in benghazi, libarch that killed ambassador stevens and three other americans. the pentagon never received the request from the state academy for security, and did not have the resources to get support on the ground in time to thwart the attackers. leon panetta is stepping down. this hearing is four hours and 15 minutes. [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] >> good morning, everybody. today the committee welcomes secretary of defense, leon panetta, and the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, general martin dempsey. to testify about the department of defense's response the deadly terrorist attack on the u.s. temporary mission facility in benghazi, libya, last year. and the findings of its internal review following that attack, including lessons learned from benghazi. we will be receiving testimony next tuesday morning on the impact of sequestration and/or a full-year continuing resolution on the department of defense witnesses. there will be department secretary of defense, the comp driller and the joint chiefs of staff. i hope
the u.s. mission in benghazi is our topic. testimony on capitol hill has ignited a fresh round of debate today. what's not going away are questions about last year's terror attack in libya after panetta's final testimony yesterday. >> if i were a family member and one of my loved ones was killed in benghazi, i would be sick to my stomach. >> republican lindsey graham declared on twitter the president, quote, has to announce for his leadership on benghazi after panetta and general martin dempsey testified, they spoke to the president only once during the eight-hour attack. >> one time. >> right. >> you talked to him how many times? >> the same one time. >> graham and his republican colleagues repeatedly pressed panetta on why there was no direct follow up with mr. obama after they met in the oval office. >> are you surprised that the president of the united states never called you, secretary penta, and said how is it going? >> normally in these situations -- >> did he know the level of threat? >> let me wa finish the answer. we -- we were deploying the forces. he was being kept up to date
. 360,000 for the week. we're just kicking off right now. the u.s. government issues a new warning for anyone who tries to hack our computer system. this is a big deal. we'll talk about that in a moment. martha: you've heard about this looming automatic spending cuts coming down the pipeline. one week from today they're supposed to kick in. how tough is it really to cut 2 1/2% of the budget? could you pull that off? could you cut 2 1/2% from the hemmer budget? bill: i could, yeah, this afternoon. president obama is talking about his round of golf with tiger wood for the first time now. this is from 2009, this picture. of a the white house took heat for shutting out the white house press corps. did you hear tiger. >> he hit the ball well and got amazing touch. he can certainly chip-and-putt. if he ever spent, after these four years, if he spend more time playing the game of golf, i'm sure he can get to where he's a pretty good stick. new honey bunches of oats greek yogurt and whole grain. here we go. honey cornflakes and chunks of greek yogurt. i'm tasting both the yogurt and the ho
of these agenda items through. >> every bit of it. >>> a u.s. senator's travel habits are under fire right now and may land him in serious legal trouble. we have the document showing that senator bob menendez, did not, as requested, to report that he accepted free plane trips. >>> and the fall of a man who was once the most catholic leaders in the united states. it's chevy truck month! silverado was also recognized for the lowest cost of ownership. hey, what are you gonna do with it? end table. oh. [ male announcer ] it's chevy truck month. now get 0% financing for 60 months, plus trade up to get $1,750 total allowance on a silverado all-star edition. or trade up and choose customer cash plus option package discount for a total value of $7,250. executor of efficiency. you can spot an amateur from a mile away... while going shoeless and metal-free in seconds. and you...rent from national. because only national lets you choose any car in the aisle...and go. you can even take a full-size or above, and still pay the mid-size price. now this...will work. [ male announcer ] just like you, business p
regular mail on saturdays, that's it. at least come august. the head of the u.s. postal service says that will be the new normal starting at the end of the summer. officials tell us the agency is losing $25 million a day. it had to do something. here is what they say it will mean for all of us. you will not get first class mail like letters or birthday cards on saturdays. you will still get packages, priority mail, express mail and medicine. post offices now open on saturdays will be open on saturdays but po boxes will still get regular mail on saturdays. the post master general says his research shows 70% of americans are okay with this. >> the choice is either change some of the service or raise prices. and people don't want prices raised will make the changes in service. >> but the head of the letter carrier's union calls this a disastrous idea that will hurt millions of customers it would be particularly harmful to small businesses, rural communities, the elderly, the disabled and others who depend on saturday delivery for commerce and communication. gerri willis from the fox bus
:00 in new york city, big changes are on the way for the u.s. postal service affecting every american who gets mail. the agency today announced it will stop some of its saturday deliveries as it tries to stem the losses of some 25 million dollars per day, per day. under the new plan set to take effect in august, the postal service will no longer deliver letters and first class mail on saturdays, but it will still deliver packages plus priority mail, express mail, and mail order medicine, everything that makes money. it would not close any branches currently open on the weekends. of course, the cuts in service mean fewer jobs. steve sensteve steve centanni. >> reporter: vermont independent bernie sanders said this will send the post office into a death spiral. white house press secretary jay carney received to prefer a more comprehensive approach to postal reform. >> it would be our preference that that package of reforms be implemented for the sake of a stronger future of the postal service. we're looking at this particular action now and, you know, i can't really evaluate it yet since we
't giving up yet. i'm wolf blitzer. you're in "the situation room." cutting our pay. that's how one u.s. officer says u.s. troops view the recommendation for a smaller pay increase in 2014. no one goes into the military to get rich but most servicemen and women need every dollar in their paycheck. so worried that next paycheck may be smaller is not going over well among the troops. our pentagon correspondent barbara starr has the details. she's working the story. barbara, what's going on? >> wolf, in this town, there's nothing that causes more anxiety in budget politics than the concept of cutting the pay for the troops. but that is exactly what is on the table if congress and the president cannot reach an agreement on a spending plan. the troops usually are happy to see defense secretary leon panetta, smiles and handshakes all around. but days before he leaves office, panetta has bad news. he's proposing less money in their paycheck next year. panetta, a savvy washington operative in budget politics, is leaving it to congress to figure out how not to cut pay and keep thousands of defen
to go. >> any member of al qaeda, a u.s. citizen or not, needs to know they have the ability to surrender anytime, anywhere throughout the world, and they can do so before their organization is to strike. we will destroy that organization, and u.s. citizens can surrender anytime. >> just on that point, i do not take a back seat to anybody in terms of citing al qaeda. i asked you a different question, and on the question of what kind of evidence ought to be applied, whether there ought to be geographic limits, the question of whether an individual should be allowed to surrender. for example, there is a question of whether the obligation changes, a valid target has not been publicly reported, so there are issues here, and i think we are going to have to continue discussions, and, madam, i look forward to the extra round. >> senator coats. >> i think it may be better held for further discussion next week in the classified room, but this whole idea of leaks, nothing upsets me more in this committee, and we have had a lot of these in the last few years, to see something that was d
much of the public and congress should know about the u.s. drove stride program. we would like to hear your opinion. what is the balance between government secrecy and the public's right to know? here are the numbers to call -- you can also find us online -- here is the headline in "the baltimore sun" this morning. brennan targeted over drones. looking at some of the opinions coming in on the editorial pages of the newspapers. "usa today" -- that is of the newspaper's editorial board opinion. jumping down, it says -- the opposing view that "usa today" publishes to give a counterpoint says end the u.s. -- covert drone war. naureen shah at columbia's human-rights institute writes -- she points out the war is waged secretly because the pakistani and yemen government have the time feared their citizens would oppose open u.s. and all -- involvement. what do you think? what is more important, government secrecy or the public's right to know? let's hear from walter from butler, indiana. a republican. are you with us? last time for walter. caller: yes, ma'am. hello? thank you for taking my cal
to the deadly raid on the u.s. consulate. >> for you to testify that our posture would not allow a rapid response, our posture was not there because we didn't take into account the threats to that consulate. and that's why four americans died. >> we never received a request for support from the state department. which would have allowed us to put forces -- >> so it's the state department's fault? >> i'm not blaming the state department, i'm sure they had their own -- >> who would you blame? >> i stand by the report of the accountability review board. >> are you surprised that the president of the united states never called you, secretary panetta, and say, how's it going? >> you know, normally in these situations -- >> did he know the level of threat? >> let me finish the answer. we were deploying the forces, he knew we were deploying the forces, he was being kept -- >> i hate to interrupt you but i got limited time. we didn't deploy any forces. >> no, but the -- >> wait a minute. >> it was over. the event was over before we could move any -- >> it lasted almost eight hours and my questio
of this kind of imminent threat, it requires me being off u.s. soil. >> right. there's a big distinction here, that's important to talk about. this memo only applies in situations where an american citizen is in a combat area. not even -- they can't do it in the streets of london. the memo talks about in a place that is essentially a war zone. >> but we don't have a declared war against these places. >> we do have authorization of use of military force against al qaeda. that's -- >> the zones. >> those are the areas. you know, yemen, afghanistan, formerly iraq, that's where we use those powers. but you talk about your phone calls, you have a -- they need a warrant to listen to your phone calls in the united states. but if you call yemen, they don't need a warrant. >> they can listen. what about mali, is that considered to be a place where, if you're planning an attack against me and you're safe, from i don't know, poughkeepsie, they can take you out there? >> the memo doesn't deal with na directly but you can bet the answer is yes. mali -- anywhere where we think al qaeda mig
agencies, btsr not only locally, but federally. there are bloodhounds and the u.s. forest is on the scene. this is a very serious situation, a tense situation all across southern california. the state is on tactical alert because this guy says he will take out family or anybody in his way. even down the hill here, a couple of times tonight, you can see police unit, going in one direction or another, lights and sirens, they are taking every from caution necessary. the lapd, which is at the center of all of this, they have taken all motorcycle officers off the roadways, all units are required to have two officers inside. and two cars are required to respond to every police call. that's going to go on until they find this suspect. so, greta, a very serious situation here in southern california. this guy has killed three. and the worry is he will try to kill more. >> adam, thank you. police say the rogue cop ambushed two officers on routine patrol in riverside, california, as they sat unsuspecting in their patrol car. he opened fire and killed one and wounded the other. joining us is the rive
, the question we are asking today, when is it legal for the u.s. government to kill its own citizens overseas? talking about americans here. justice department memo made public by nbc spells out the position, by the obama administration, now what it says the memo justifies the targeted killing of an american who is considered a senior operational leader of al qaeda or an associated group, and who poses an imminent threat of violent attack against the united states. want to bring in halle goran any. a controversial issue, under president bush, now president obama. the fact that the government does have the power, and the authority, to kill an american overseas that's considered a threat. and how do they define that? >> that's the question because when you say imminent, it could be imminent in a few hours, in a few weeks, saying you can target a member of al qaeda, senior operational al qaeda leader, or associated forces. how are you defining associated forces? how are you defining the word imminent? how are you defining the word threat? all of these things are things that are open to interpret
. meanwhile on tuesday, pakistan's ambassador to the u.s. discussed the issue of drone attacks saying strikes are indirect violation of international law and her events came at an event hosted by the "christian science monitor." >> i want to ask you about the drones. pakistan's position is that the drone strikes are a violation of your sovreignty and international law and i think under both of those guidelines you have the right to self-defense. and further, just to guide your answer, has pakistan threatened to shoot down drones, and if not, why not? the reason i ask this is because there is an understanding that while pakistan publicly opposes the strike, privately it sort of winks. >> let me address this as most people do to speak to what they can in terms of the question put and it's an important question and you do ask -- you ask a question which many ask, is there a quiet come policity in this. let me assure you, there is no question of quiet come policity or wink and nod. this is a parliamentary red line all government institutions have internalized as policy. and you know, i say this a
did not know that. >> are you stunned? >> i would call myself surprised. >> senator mccain said the u.s. providing weapons to the opposition. >> do support the recommendation from the secretary of state clinton and then head of caa general pretoria's we provide weapons to the resistance in syria? did you support that? >> we did. >> last week in "new york times" reported clinton and betrayed us and asked the white house for permission to arm the syria and rebels and paul rand said it may have been involved moving weapons to syria through turkey. lou: thank you jennifer griffin. the senator breaux the president's nomination to be blocked of john brennan. the question is different but no less intense. focusing on the drums killing american citizens and a security leaks. like emmanuel has the of report. >> john reddens confirmation hearing was interrupted five times by protesters before the room was cleared. he has taken heat from liberals as architect of the drone program and the kill less. he said it is not ideal. >> never believe it is better to kill a terrorist as detaining we want to s
, technically i wear one. the u.s. postal service®, no business too small. secretary leon panetta and joint chiefs chairman and did to the senate armed services committee that they talked with president obama exactly once during the terrorist attack on the american consulate, said deadly super winter storm to bring historic snowfall, coastal flooding, while conditions and 3 feet of snow are expected. what is the department of homeland's security doing with all of the ammunition in its buying? another enormous ammunition purchase. agenda paula talk now about one point* 6 billion crowns over the past 10 months alone. we begin with the testimony of outgoing defense secretary panetta and chairman of joint chiefs general the see both bringing the ugly truth to light of the administration's handling of thank on see -- benghazi resulting in the death of chris stevens. lindsay gramm talked with president obama only once on the day of the attack. >> he relied with myself and the generals capabilities. he knows what we deployed and we presented that to him said he knew generally was deployed with as
and bloodhounds there, the u.s. forest service on seen and this obviously is a very serious situation and tense situation and california stays on tactical alert and this guy says he'll take out family or anybody in his way and give you an idea, even down the hill here, a couple of times tonight, you can see units, police units, going in one direction or another, lights and sirens and taking every single precaution necessary. the l.a.p.d. which of course is at the center of this, they have taken all motorcycle officers off the roadways, all units are required to have two officers inside and two cars are required to respond to every police call and that's going on until they find this suspect. so, greta, a very serious situation here in southern california as you know, this guy has already killed three and the worry is he'll try to kill more, greta. >> greta: adam, thank you. now, police say the rogue cop ambushed two officers on routine patrol in riverside, as they sat unsuspecting in the patrol car, opened fire on them and killing one and wounding one other. and joining us, good evening both of
the legal justification for the treatment of terrorist detainees in u.s. custody. within months of taking office released several olc memos describing the legal justification for the treatment of terrorist detainees in u.s. custody. do you think it was appropriate that a different standard was applied to the release of the memos from the bush administration than those produced by the obama administration? >> i do not think there was a different standard. >> one was released within four months of the obama administration taking office. the other had been requested for a much longer time. >> i am not a lawyer. i have come to learn of the term sui generis. the olc memos released after the president came into office were released because the program was terminated. olc will counsel opinions, and those opinions were looked at in a different way because of the sui generis circumstances. >> both are essential for the ability of congress to carry its oversight responsibilities. finally, the intelligence reform act and terrorist prevention act of 2004, with which you are very familiar and which i
. there was some of that, might have focused on u.s. intelligence failures that led to the death of four u.s. diplomats in benghazi action and there was some of that. mostly it was a hard look at the growing phenomenon of america going to war by remote control, and what the rules on that ought to be. >> we look forward to hearing your testimony. >> reporter: at his senate confirmation hearing, the issue is not john brennan's ability to be cia director. he's a former top agent, white house counter-terror chief when osama bin laden was killed, but protesters delayed the hearing, objecting to what they call cia torture, and u.s. drones flying in pakistan and yemen. 6 firing missiles. the administration's legal justification was finally released to congress today, plus a proposal for a closed court to review attack plans. >> to assure that drone strikes are carried out in a manner consistent with the values. >> reporter: brennan says they have been and will be and the public needs to know it. when there's no other alternative. >> cia torture, he says, is over. >> waterboarding is reprehensible a
'm looking forward to working with the ranking member ron barber as we both share a strong commitment to u.s. border security and ensuring our border agents receive the support that they need to protect the homeland. last september, ron and i attended the dedication ceremony of the bryant a kerry border patrol station in arizona on wrangled patrol agent brian terry who was killed in december 2010 in the line of duty in arizona. also look forward to a strong bipartisan cooperation in helping to make the department of homeland security as efficient and effective as possible. i would also like to introduce our new freshman majority members. today we have mr. kief rothfuss from pennsylvania and mr. richard hudson of north carolina, and later joining us will be mr. steven gaines of montana. they bring a wealth of experience to their new roles in the congress and on the subcommittee at a look forward to leveraging their experience and knowledge to provide effective oversight of dhs. let me pause for just a minute and think the subcommittee staff who have worked diligently to put this first hearing
the circumstances in which such force is directed against u.s. citizens and non- citizens alike. i have been attempting to speak publicly about the very low number of civilian casualties that result from such strikes. but for the past several years, this committee has done significant oversight of the government's knowledge of targeted strikes, and the figures we have obtained from the executive branch, which we have done have confirmed that the number of civilian casualties that have resulted from such strikes each year has typically been in the single digits. when i asked to give out the actual numbers, i am told you cannot, and i say why not? because it is classified. it is a covert program. for the public, it does not exist. well, i think that rationale, mr. brennan, is long gone, and i will talk to you about that because i think it is very important that we share this data with people. this committee will continue to perform significant oversight of targeted strikes. we received this morning and office of legal counsel opinion on the topic. actually, we received a short one and a long o
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such strikes are rarely used and only against targets planning to attack the u.s. however, the head of the intelligence committee, senator dianne feinstein, is calling for more openness about that drone program. >>> outgoing defense secretary leon panetta revealed for the first time that there was a plan in place to support rebels in syria. but that plan was vetoed by president obama because of worries that the weapons might fall into the wrong hands. more than 60,000 people have died in syria's civil war. >> by the way, i was just going to add to that civil war. it's cost that country the equivalent of $48 billion. when you think about a war, our war obviously has cost us trillions of dollars. but a country that has no money, and they're relying on us for help, $48 billion is a lot of money. >> and the u.s. has given syria about $210 million in aid to help those insurgents along. but this issue of whether we arm them is one. after two wars and libya, maybe the country was not ready to get involved in another country. but we put these arms in syria, how do we know they're not going
. howard, will you dot honors? [applause] >> u.s. senator, vice president of the united states, nobel peace prize recipient, as cor winner, best selling author, any one of these superlatives alone would be enough to suggest that our next speaker is a force with which to be reckoned, but when combined into one individual, it is evident that al gore is a force of nature. he is always been on the leading edge of promoting the internet as a tool for greater communication, of climate change as one of the greatest perils of our time, and in his latest book, "the future," of the key medical technological, and philosophical drivers checking our world. ever the big picture thinker, al gore explores how we may harness these epic change agents for the good. although his public professionalized had it not been without controversy, his record of accomplishments speak to the life lived on the precipice of passion, purpose, and possibility. on behalf of the savannah book festival, it is by great honor to introduce to all of you al gore. [applause] [cheers and applause] >> thank you very much, thank you. t
martha: we're working on getting more information on u.s. gold medalist lindsey vonn. she is a four-time world champion. the event that was going on in austria, she had a crash. she said it was very foggy. it was delayed a couple hours. three out of the other four top racers did not finish the race. on the left-hand side of the screen you can see her being airlifted. when she got up, she stumbled. they think it is a right knee injury. she was in very dramatic fashion airlifted out of there hopefully we will get you video. she is a awesome skier. incredible one. >> that will do it for us. and "happening now" begins right now. martha: bye, guys. jenna: right now brand new stories and breaking news. jon: drivers beware. gas prices on the rise again, hitting numbers we've never seen this time of year. any relief in sight? >>> plus a dramatic ending to a hostage standoff that gripped the nation. the police storm an underground bunker to save a little boy two days before his sixth birthday. we'll tell you how he is doing today. >>> a bizarre ruling from the bench that is father of four ca
if the u.s. government is going to continue executing u.s. citizens with drone strikes there need to be some checks and balances in place to make sure the american being targeted is really associated with al qaeda and really can not be captured. to minimize the possibility of a lethal operation against an innocent person and the senate intelligence committee chair, senator dianne feinstein, says she thinks there will soon be a quote, new day of transparency? >> at one point it was a limited covert program. now everybody knows about it and i think we need to see that this program is really run according to the american constitution and according to law. >> reporter: brennan said yesterday he never believed it is better to kill a terrorist than to detain one for intelligence-gathering purposes. he also offered a new position on enhanced interrogation. in 2007 he said it saved lives but yesterday he said he personally objected to techniques like waterboarding when he was with the cia but never tried to prevent them because they were being used in a different part of the agency. rick?
agencies and what not. and this may surprise you but not all parts of the u.s. government work together seamlessly. [laughter] so here we are, as this cycle and we have these things, what we call blinks between the parts and so one element would find a target but by the time the information got to the people who were going to fix it usually with a predator or something like that to make sure they're there then, time would have passed and accuracy of information, fidelity would have passed. then it would be passed over to the raid force. again you have a loss. like the game telephone where you whisper around the room, it is untellable by the fifth person we're trying to do things in that system. we said this is madness. it won't work. we went on a campaign to fix that process, bringing in different parts of the organization, building intelligence capacity. giving ourselves a mind-set that was different before. if each element did its part of the process they could take pride, we succeeded, we did what we were told. we wiped that clean, nobody is successful unless the whole process works.
of targeted force for over a year, including the circumstances in which such force is directed against u.s. citizens and non-citizens alike. i have been attempting to speak publicly about the very low number of civilian casualties that result from such strikes. . but for the past several years, this committee has done significant oversight of the government's, but of targeted strikes and the figures we have obtained from the executive branch, which we have done have confirmed that the number of civilian casualties that have resulted from such strikes each year has typically been in the single digits. when i asked to give out the actual numbers, i am told you cannot, and i say why not? because it is classified. it is a covert program. for the public, it does not exist. well, i think that rationale, mr. brennan, is long gone, and i will talk to you about that because i think it is very important that we share this data with people. this committee will continue to perform significant oversight of targeted strikes. we received this morning and office of legal counsel opinion on the topic. actu
killing of u.s. citizens overseas. you might remember a memo was leaked earlier this week to "nbc news." those are the so-called white pages that were the catalyst for this broader conversation we've been having about drones. these secret documents we're talking about today released now to the intelligence committee are bigger than those white pages, more sought-after, if you will. congressman mike rogers is the chairman of that intelligence committee and he joins us now. congressman, have you gotten a look at these legal documents? >> i have. i read it this morning, jenna. jenna: anything you can tell us about them? i understand they're secret and classified but anything that stands out to you? >> you know, not really. it was, what i thought was a solid legal argument. you they the biggest thing here were they believe believe, that they should not have to show their everysight committee this particular document. that is what is stunning to me. i've gone through the legal document. we had the general memo back in june of last year. we've been asking for this legal argument for some tim
he's doing. >> reporter: but why now? dorner was honorably discharged from the u.s. navy reserve just last friday after ten years' service. including a tour in the persian gulf. was that the trigger for this killing spree? or evidence of careful planning? >> i have more questions than i do have answers at this point. >> reporter: if dorner gets his apparent wish, if he is killed, we might never know the whole truth. nick watt, abc news, los angeles. >> wow. and this 6,000 word manifesto gives some scary insight into what he is thinking. one part in the document where he writes, self-preservation is no longer important to me. i do not fear death, as i died long ago on 1-2-09, referring to the day that he was fired. >> right. >> from the force here. so this is a guy as you heard from the piece who is looking to kill and be killed. that's what makes him so dangerous. >> this manifesto is interesting. he kind of switches between completely insane and 100% lucid. >> yes. >> he talks about two different political figures and different stars on television almost like this is something he now
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